debtor

NEW DEMO OUT NOW

2010-06-23T16:05:00.000-07:00

FREE DOWNLOAD:

http://www.mediafire.com/?nje5dcdjzom

ADVENT/REIGN SUPREME, STEREOKILLER

2010-04-28T20:08:00.001-07:00

1. THIS SHOW WILL BE AWESOME (WE ARE ALSO PLAYING IT)

2. STEREOKILLER REVIEWED "DELIVERANCE"

http://www.stereokiller.com/newsreviews/article.cfm?Review=Debtor-Deliverance&intarticleid=9225

3. WE ARE GONNA MAKE A MUSIC VIDEO FOR FREE. ISN'T THAT WEIRD? STAY TUNED FOR THAT

PEACE

APRIL. SHIRTS, INTERVIEWS, SHOWS

2010-04-10T10:20:00.000-07:00

Whats up internet world. We've played a few nice shows since the last update, most recently in Brooklyn with Palehorse and a stupid, 4-member last minute show last night at the Polish Club, opening for Foose and Steel Nation.

INTERVIEW FOR THE ANVIL AND THE HAMMER PODCAST

they made me sound really smart, check it out! 35th-46th minute mark

http://podcast.anvilandthehammer.com

NEW SHIRT DESIGN

another new one coming soon

THEY INTERVIEWED US IN THIS E-BOOK CALLED "METAL MISSIONARIES"

along with a lot of other bands

http://store.undark.net/collections/ebooks/products/metal-missionaries-the-assimilation-of-extreme-christian-metal-into-mainstream-consciousness

SHOW WITH ADVENT AND REIGN SUPREME. APRIL 30TH, THE AQUIFER IN NJ.

stoked.

grace and peace everybody

Reviews, Interviews, and more!

2010-02-10T19:52:00.000-08:00

Hey people, just wanted to let you know about some of the places on the web you can read about what we're up to.

HxC Christian Interview

Indie Vision Music Review of "Deliverance"

The Painted Man Review of "Deliverance"

The Painted Man February Mixtape

We're playing in Harrisburg for the first time ever this Friday, if you live in central PA, hope to see you there!

- Alan

Happy 2010!

2010-01-05T19:57:00.000-08:00

We played our first show back last Wednesday at the Polish club, and it went great. Highlights included putting holes in dry wall before the show, stopping a prayer to allow the venue to dolly out the beer, Jason ruining his guitar bridge, a circle pit, and me busting up my mic and kicking over a PA speaker, which took out somebody's beer and Jason's footswitch, silencing him effectively. Definitely the most broken thing, however, was Satan's feelings.

here's a good bit:

We've got some more shows coming up: a church show in Alburtis this Friday, and a brand new venue in Reading on the 22nd. Pray for those, and future ones, and for how we're going to make the next record happen financially. We have hookups but it's not all confirmed yet. Thanks for your support!

- Alan

Re-Release and Shirts!

2009-12-15T23:19:00.000-08:00

We're stoked, guys.

"Deliverance" has officially been re-released by Blood & Ink Records, in an online-only version, with new artwork!

GET IT FROM ITUNES

We also have SHIRTS! They are FAIRLY TRADED, and you can get them right now as a combo with the "Deliverance" download!

GET ONE HERE (be sure to select or deselect the combo option)

Christmas came early!

AT LAST

2009-12-07T12:14:00.001-08:00

5 people (josh is there but you can't see him). feels good.

shows early '10.

NEW ART

2009-11-28T16:05:00.001-08:00

we gots it, thanks to Blood & Ink, and Zeb Love: theorganmedia.com

November!

2009-11-17T20:42:00.000-08:00

So here's what's been happening lately:

1. We've been working on the artwork for the re-release. It looks nice.

2. We've been practicing, and learning new songs. At practice, we play a game called pain, and marigold loses a lot.

3. Jon is playing with us again, as of last week! I am trying to both sing and play bass, but it's pretty hard. Bassists, get at us.

4. My boy Mark killed it the other day. Viddy this.

It's easy to write this sort of thing off as scare tactics or whatever, but for me it hits home. A couple years ago an atheist friend of mine killed herself. One of the main things we did when we hung out was talk about God (or not-God). She rejected the hope I feebly attempted to offer, and now she's gone. Obviously there are satisfied, happy atheists. I know plenty firsthand. But I don't understand how that behavior follows from their worldview.

I'd say hardcore shows Mark to be wrong about one thing: atheists do have good songs. His main point stands, however, because the best atheistic hardcore songs are also the most depressing. Not only that, but the despair seems to have ramped up even more than usual in recent years. It's all but standard for a modern dark-sounding hardcore band to have at least one song denying the Almighty. Trapped Under Ice says "no hope, I can't believe." Defeater's narrative ends with a suicide from a church rooftop. It's not even worth citing examples, because there are so many. What's interesting is that the main argument these bands seem to imply is this: because massive evil and suffering occurs, a good God cannot exist.

Everybody feels the force of this argument at some point, because everybody suffers in some form. However, I for one have never been able to swallow it. I don't want to write a long philosophical post, so I need to kinda gloss over defining the terms well...but here is one reason why:

1. If there is no God, then there is no such thing as objective good or evil.

therefore

2. If there is no God, suffering is not actually evil, just disagreeable to me.

which begs the question,

3. Why should my feelings or preferences dictate the existence or non-existence of God?

Does that make sense? To put it another way: an atheist has no good reason to be morally outraged, because for him, morality is a human construct. Moral outrage can only be consistently possessed by people who believe in objective morality. Without God, there is no objective morality. Therefore, moral outrage assumes God; so how can it then be used to refute him?

But enough philosophy. For me the hardest-hitting part was this line, because it's exactly how I felt when I became a Christian, and when I wrote Hope For Death.

"If there's no God to judge me, and no God to help me, and when I die there is no consequence, then if it hurts really bad, why not just get it over [with]? I'm gonna die anyways. Let's just move the date."

WE ARE SIGNED. JOIN OUR BAND.

2009-09-25T18:15:00.000-07:00

Hey party people

First of all, thank you all for your encouraging comments and messages. It’s awesome that so many people are still discovering us and hitting us up, even though we haven’t played a show in over a year. You rule.

Also, look: I made this blog. I’m hoping this can be a place where people can find out what’s happening with us, and where I can occasionally mix in thoughts on God/hardcore/etc. Not sure if it will work or not. We’ll see how it turns out.

If you haven’t heard, we are now signed to Blood & Ink Records!! It hasn’t been officially announced on their website yet, but I promise it’s true. They are really hooking us up by taking us on even though we are currently hobbling around with an incomplete line-up. We’re totally grateful. Through them, we will be doing an online-only re-release of Deliverance with expanded artwork. The idea is that more people will hear about it and get to jam out to it, plain and simple. It’s not the standard thing that bands usually do. But…who cares?

And just so you know, we aren’t doing it for the money. Because there is no money. Because nobody likes 30-second songs. And, that’s fine. All that matters is that Jesus gets glory and the Casbah gets rocked.

Thirdly, rest assured that we are not done. Full lineup or not, barring direct divine intervention or untimely death, we will record more material. Much new material is already written. The style has changed ever so slightly, but I think I like it even more. Even if we never get to play another live show, just having the recordings will be great, and when the kingdom comes we will get angels to fill in, and we’ll play a show, and everybody will stage dive off the 1,380-mile-tall walls of New Jerusalem. Be there.

Speaking of members, meet the two new dudes:

Josh - drums (happy guy with the gun)

and Marigold (a.k.a. J-core) – rhythm guitar. me and Marigold go way back. I offer proof of this in the form of an old embarrassing picture:

For months now it has just been me and these two guys at practice, eating almonds and putting holes in walls. We’ve had seriously like 8-10 people say they want to play and then back out, or really want to play but they are too busy, or they move away, or whatever. Even Jon, the only guy besides me who was in the original lineup, has been too busy to play with us. It’s been discouraging. On top of that, we’re all busy, and Marigold is 100% married.

The time has come try using the internet to find people. So step up!

We need a lead guitarist and a bassist. You must:

- be a Christian
- be in the greater philly area, or close enough that you’re willing to come here
- have your own gear
- be willing to put in significant time on your own learning and practicing

message us on myspace and we’ll see if we can’t work something out.

That’s all for now. I hope love and grace and peace are in and with you all. Later.

Alan